Instructor: Rainsong & Wayfarer
Date: March 31, 2017 (Friday)
Note: This class was conducted in the Order of the Golden Pyramid community’s chatroom
Wayfarer
Right, so, this is I believe the fourth week of this series on Remote Viewing. I believe this evening we’re planning to cover some finer points that may have been glossed over in previous weeks, as well as introduce the first real practical application, which would be Associative Remote Viewing (ARV). We will possibly run a few targets towards the end for that ARV practice.
Rainsong has been teaching the course thus far, of course, and will be continuing to do so, and I’ve been kind of handling the practical elements and filling in with my experience.
Earlier this week, on Monday, I believe, I ran a handful of sessions with a few people in attendance, notably Dr. Strange Stuff and Zeera. Doc S. had an absolutely fantastic Stage 2 session, of the sort that we predict from the kind of “beginner’s luck” effect.
More on that in just a moment.
But the beginner’s luck effect comes from the training literature which recognized that early RV sessions tend to be *fantastically* good, and then immediately nosedive to just being garbage for a good long while. The hardest part of learning RV is not getting discouraged in the doldrums.
Whether or not someone expects fantastic results *forever* is usually the determining factor for whether they will continue on or just sort of flame out during the bad period.
The said, I’m going to repost his run sheet, with his permission. @Dr. Strange Stuff , you good with that?
Dr. Strange Stuff
Yep
Wayfarer
So first I want to call attention to a few bits here. He’s got his name on the top right of the paper, as well as the date and time. This is great, proper form. That lets us see when a run was done and reference to other things to determine if anything pertinent comes up.
He doesn’t have the personal inclemencies written across the top of the page, but he did have them there during his first session. We always want to write down the things that might negatively affect us on the top of the page so that we can call them out before they pollute the actual data from the signal.
Next we have the actual target coordinates written on the paper, followed by an ideogram and an A (feeling/motion) and B (initial analytic impression) written there, concluding stage 1.
Because it wasn’t clear before, I want to clarify the IAB format.
I is an ideogram, an automatic response drawn immediately upon contact with the signal.
A is the feeling or motion of the site. It’s what the *whole site* sort of “feels” like.
B is our first analytic impression of the *gestalt*, which is a term I understand is kind of confusing, so quickly we will define that as the entire site if we were to take it as a whole.
For example, if we have fingers, toes, arms, hands, organs, head, hair, etc. etc. those things add up to “human being”, “human being” is the gestalt.
If we have a hundred human beings in a hall all watching a lecture, “assembly” could be the gestalt.
And so on.
He then proceeded to Stage 2. Stage 2 focuses on sensory data.
This is stuff that would map to one of your five senses.
He lists a bunch of those, then takes an AOL break, or Analytical Overlay Break. If we were being way, way more into it, we would actually mark a time that the break started and a time that it ended.
In any case, we can see here that there’s an analytical overlay of a beach and ocean. AOL is called out because we generally want to get it out of our head. We write it on the paper because it might be right, but it more likely than not is wrong.
He took about a 2-3 minute break, and then resumed.
The second set of S2 information followed, and then another AOL.
Rainsong
With AOL, your imagination and analytical side are trying to fill in gaps in the data.
Wayfarer
At that point, I determined that he had hit the site, and I showed him what the target was.
We can see here that all of the elements of S2 were accounted for, but the first AOL was totally off. You can see, of course, how that first chunk of information, water, wet, cool, etc. is obviously present, but it’s very much *not a beach*.
But like Rainsong said, your brain takes the sensory information it’s picking up and tries to make sense of it, that’s what brains do.
So after he took the AOL break, he moved on, got more information, and got very different information. This is good “control of structure.” If he had continued *without* breaking for the AOL, he most likely would have focused on the cool, wet, watery parts, and missed, you know, the giant fire.
So that’s my bit, and at this point I’m going to happily turn it over to Rainsong to introduce the next bit.
Rainsong
Hi, all.
*bows to Wayfarer* (I’ll point out for the record that he and I are co-teaching this series… We shift back and forth as to who takes the lead according to who feels like it at the time, and who’s thinking of the appropriate data.)
Thanks for letting us share your results from the practice session, Dr. Strange Stuff. It made an excellent illustration, as well as being an excellent session in its own right.
Before we proceed with the next bit, are there any questions arising from that review?
Wayfarer
Or any people out there? Lmao
Dr. Strange Stuff
I’m here. No questions, though. :]
And no problem, I look forward to having a lot more sessions like that one.
Rainsong
😀
Alrighty, then.
As Wayfarer indicated in his introductory remarks, this evening, we’re going to take a look at a practical use of RV that you can do with “just” stages 1 and 2.
Associative Remote Viewing (“ARV”) is a nifty application that takes advantage of the general niftiness of RV, while also getting around some of the weaknesses associated with clairvoyant and precognitive faculties.
One of the obvious weaknesses is that many people *usually* find that their sessions produce insufficient detail to adequately answer certain kinds of questions.
For example, suppose you were trying to determine whether to hold or sell a stock you own. (Or whether to buy a specific one.)
Some kind of coffee futures, for example.
Sure, you might pick up some coffee cherries, and shiny leaves, acrid scent – Some people pick up information about the kind of stock they are or their client is working with – Or you might get an impression of the floor of the Nikkei.
What are your chances of getting the specific numbers or trends for the right stock at the right time?
Anyone want to hazard a guess?
No?
Wayfarer
They aren’t good.
Rainsong
Well, for most people, the chances of getting useful numerical data are vanishingly small.
Wayfarer
(That’s a hint)
Rainsong
Hehe
Dr. Strange Stuff
Lol
Rainsong
In our example, here, we’re basically dealing with a binary question: “Will I make a profit if I sell stock in X coffee futures at such-and-such a time on this date?” The possible answers are “yes” and “no.”
So, what we do, is have the tasker choose two targets. Ideally, they should be very different from each other. For example, if the tasker is using a picture library, he or she might choose a picture of a cute kitten and a picture of Seattle’s Space Needle building.
S/he puts the kitten picture in an envelope marked “yes” and the Space Needle picture in the envelope marked “no.”
You can see where we’re going with this. 😀
The actual task is to “Describe the picture you will be shown at (time) on (date).”
The time in question will be *after* the sale (or not) of the stock has already happened and you know whether a profit has been made.
This can be minutes, hours, or years in the future.
But, you ask, if you don’t know the results until you already know the answer to the question, what use is it?
So glad you asked… 😉
Dr. Strange Stuff
😛
Rainsong
You go ahead and run a session on the “Describe the picture…..” task. And then, you or the tasker (or someone) compares your results with the two pictures. Whichever one matches your session is the answer you run with in deciding whether to sell.
So, cute kitten = sell and Space Needle = not sell / hold.
Let’s say you got impressions of “natural, moving, soft, fluffy, warm, moving, striped, orange.”
Does that look like a yes or a no, to you, in this case?
*Checks to make sure the Space Needle isn’t fuzzy and orange…*
Dr. Strange Stuff
It is a kitten!
Rainsong
Good job, DSS 😀
Dr. Strange Stuff
xD
Rainsong
For clarification, you don’t know before the session what the two potential targets are.
In our hypothetical situation, we’ve tended to “kitten”, so we go with yes, the person sells the stock at such and such a time…
And at the appointed time after the stock has sold (and presumably turned a tidy profit), you’d be shown the cute kitten picture
….which is what you were actually targeting.
The fact that you were targeting the picture instead of coffee harvests and the Nikkei or TSE or whatever, is what makes it an “associated” target…
…hence “associative” remove viewing.
Questions? Comments?
Dr. Strange Stuff
“And at the appointed time after the stock has sold (and presumably turned a tidy profit), you’d be shown the cute kitten picture”
That seems to be saying that you only get to open the envelope with the kitten picture in it after you have made the decision to hold/ sell.
Is that right or am I just reading that wrong?
Rainsong
You’ll have opened both – or, rather, whoever is doing the analysis will have opened both – in order to compare to the results of the session.
But, you are then very deliberately shown only one of them at the appointed time *after* the stock had been sold.
So, if you’re doing your own analysis, you’ll see kitten twice, and Space Needle once.
If you’re doing your own analysis, you’ll also have chosen your targets blind from a large library of pictures that are already in envelopes, otherwise you’d know what the two choices were and therefore sabotage your own efforts.
(Or indeed, if you’re doing your own tasking, whether or not you’re doing the analysis…)
Wayfarer
You can incidentally just build a whole catalog of images in envelopes in pairs, and shuffle those up as matched pairs where you do not know what the pairs are.
You can then just hold one and go “this is yes.”
The other “this is no.”
And go from there, for self-tasking.
Rainsong
*nods*
Hint: printing out pictures with eight on a page makes for both cheaper printing and really convenient sizing for fitting in cheap envelopes.
Old magazines, junk mail, tourist literature, and catalogues are also convenient sources of target pictures.
DSS: Did that answer your question or is it still unclear?
Dr. Strange Stuff
Yes, that answered my question, thanks.
Rainsong
Cool.
Dr. Strange Stuff
:thumbsup:
Rainsong
I studied with Greg Kolodziejzyk for a while. He’d suggested that good practice is to use ARV to predict coin flips.
That’s a good plan, for most people.
Not so great for me: I’m more telekinetic than precognitive, so there was a small flaw in the plan – coin tosses are *much* too easy to accidentally influence, even when you’re not trying to cheat.
Wayfarer: anything to add, or should we proceed with a practice run?
Wayfarer
I’m not an ARV guy, really, and I think there’s not too much to add there.
Rainsong
Fair enough.
DSS: want to give it a try?
(Wayfarer: feel free to do the practice run, if you want to, also…. any number of people can run the same trial.)
Dr. Strange Stuff
Sure thing.
Rainsong
As usual, you’ll need a black pen and some plain, white paper.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Ready, should we do it in voice?
Rainsong
I’m not set up for voice-chat 🙁
Dr. Strange Stuff
Oh, okay. One moment, then.
Ready.
Or do I do it myself?
Wayfarer
I’m going to pass on this one, but you can do a non-vocomms session – just do make sure to write down the target when you see it.
Rainsong
Alright… from your experience so far, does half-an-hour sound reasonable?
Dr. Strange Stuff
Yes
Rainsong
I’ll give both “targeting” methods. Use whichever you prefer.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Are we doing the coin thing with a time or the same thing I did the other day?
Rainsong
Describe the picture you will be shown at quarter to the next hour.
Or, target number: 6232-1432
Actually, it will be a roll of a die: will the colour shown be a warm colour?
(six-sided die with colour spots instead of pips)
So, whenever you’re ready, …
Dr. Strange Stuff
OK. I have to stop.
Wayfarer
You okay?
Dr. Strange Stuff
I don’t know what to look for, for the IAB,
Oh, I’m fine,… just confused.
I have the drawings.
Rainsong
Then use the target number.
And proceed as though it’s a normal RV session.
Wayfarer
I use target numbers and run it like a normal session, where the target is “whatever is associated with the number,” and the “whatever” is the correct image correspondent to the outcome we’re predicting.
Because when I’m tasked the other way I tend to view the dice.
Dr. Strange Stuff
I don’t get how numbers or colors can be organic vs inorganic and how they would have or lack movement, though.
Rainsong
Ahh, I wasn’t clear enough…
No problem.
We’ll try again in a few minutes, after I clarify what we’re doing.
You’re not trying to view the numbers or the colours on the dice.
You’re trying to describe one of two pictures… the one that you’ll be shown at the appropriate time… which is now moved to the top of the hour, to avoid rushing.
Wayfarer
Remember that organic and inorganic are not your only options, also. You can be way less general like that. “Mountain,” “structure” “landscape” “river” “manmade,” “natural. ” Let the B be something you generate with your own vocabulary. Don’t try to pick the best match from the vocabulary you’ve used, just give the initial analytical impression that you get from the information you receive (this takes *practice* so it’s not something to worry about).
Rainsong
And if you describe what the picture is of, in the kitten picture example, you’d have “organic” there, righ? And movement….?
Don’t worry. It makes more sense after you try it a time or two
Dr. Strange Stuff
Oh, okay.
Should I upload a pic of my paper when I have completed it?
Rainsong
That would be great.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Okay, this is what I have so far.
Do I need to start over with a new paper?
Wayfarer
In this case you won’t get feedback. Just proceed on to stage 2.
Wait…
I’m confused did you do two IAB for the two different targets?
Dr. Strange Stuff
No.
Wayfarer
Okay good then. Using whichever IAB there is the one you’re working with, proceed into S2. You’re just viewing as if you’re doing a session, and then whichever image your data corresponds to more closely when both images are shown is the “decision.”
Dr. Strange Stuff
Okay, Stage 2 now.
Rainsong
That looks like respectable data.
Alright: the picture for “yes” is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_tetra#/media/File:Neonsalmler_Paracheirodon_innesi.jpg
And the picture for “no” is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra#/media/File:The_Monastery,_Petra,_Jordan8.jpg
Now, the next step is to determine which of those is closer to your data.
Wayfarer
Remember to write “end” and remember you can readdress the target multiple times after breaks, don’t make mistakes with structure based on introducing habit into structure moving forward. 😀
Dr. Strange Stuff
I did add it as soon as I realised that you guys were okay with me not adding more :]
I feel like the building one is much closer.
The warmer colors and the structure, with the house makes sense to lean towards a desert background like that.
Rainsong
I think that sounds like a good analysis.
Your opinion, Wayfarer?
Wayfarer
Nice. You shouldn’t feel pressured to add more at any time, as we do more targets you’ll start just kind of getting a feel for when you’re tapped out of information.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Awesome.
Rainsong
We have twenty minutes before you’re due to be shown it.
Wayfarer
Things like “structured,” “warm,” “rising,” “orange,” and so on would incline me towards the Petra location as well.
Rainsong
We’d have time to run a second practice session, if you want (at least one of my instructors would cringe at doing them so close together…)
Your call.
Have time = between now and showing the pic for this first run.
Wayfarer
Slam those sessions out rapid fire, it’s ARV, bilo data ain’t no thang.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Honestly, I would not want to.
Mostly because I have plans after this and I feel like that may have had some effect on my mind “trying to piece things together”, which is why it took me such a short time to get AOL breaks, because I see 2 or 3 details and I have a picture unlike the other day that I was seeing things much more fragmented.
Rainsong
Fair enough. It’s not unusual to have a bunch of AOLs…and as long as you declare them correctly – as you did – they aren’t a problem, either.
For the record, I’d say that was a very good session, regardless of which way the end result goes.
Even with kitten-interference from the discussion leading up to it. 😀
Dr. Strange Stuff
xD Yea, maybe I shouldn’t expose myself to cute things near my RV sessions, or thoughts of them lol.
I’ll brb
Wayfarer
Haha
Control of structure is the most important thing.
There’s gonna be a point where you’re just going to miss target after target and you’ll be like “ugh maybe those first few sessions were just chance somehow and now I am garbage”
It is absolutely imperative you stick with it through there.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Back :]
Rainsong
It’s true. Everyone goes through the “slump” part…
welcome back
(Keep your session notes and copies of the targets from your early ones… it does help get through the slump)
Dr. Strange Stuff
Okay, yea, I can remember that, as long as I can get with you guys or another group for RV sessions, or learn to self-task and not interfere somehow doing that, then I feel confident that I want this ability with enough passion to persevere through the slump part.
Rainsong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra#/media/File:The_Monastery,_Petra,_Jordan8.jpg
Here’s the correct picture.
The dot is purple.
Dr. Strange Stuff – Today at 11:00 PM
😀 Dot?
Wayfarer
Looks like a hit to me then.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Or right on the dice.
Rainsong
Yes, on the dice.
Well done, DSS 😀
That’s a hit.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Yippeee
:dancing emoji:
Rainsong
😀
Terik
DSS: I’ll give you targets if you want – just tell me to go have a drink first. 😉
Dr. Strange Stuff
I want to thank my teachers
:thumbsup: Heard
Wayfarer
DSS we’ll continue to work together, that’s fine. Sorry I wigged on you last night, I had some things come up. But Mondays I have penciled in as general RV practice sessions where we’ll always just go over the same things as we covered in the class prior.
Dr. Strange Stuff
That is fine, I have Mondays off as well so that can be RV days. No problem about yesterday, we all have lives, and today was hectic for me.
Rainsong
And I must say, you’re really a pleasure to assist/teach.
Wayfarer
So we can do ARV on Monday. I task ARV slightly differently because I task it the same way as I task CRV. I don’t like descriptive assignment and really get stuck on needing coordinates.
Dr. Strange Stuff
Thank you very much. I owe all of my hits to my teachers, who know what they are doing and aren’t cocky about it 😀
Wayfarer
Lmao. I’ll take credit for your hits but your misses are on you. 😉
Rainsong
Lol
Dr. Strange Stuff
Lol. I can live with that
Wayfarer
Nah. RV is about command of structure and a good working team dynamic. You can get it down to a team of one, though. The monitor is there for training and for kind of supervising but once you have control of structure the monitor’s job is basically to, well, watch. Like the name would imply, haha
The viewer is the one who controls the session.
Rainsong
So true.
Thanks for participating, DSS.
And thanks for co-teaching, Wayfarer.
😀
Dr. Strange Stuff
Thank you both for having me 🙂
Wayfarer
Sure, of course. And of course people can look back and read back up, and I generally do a review using voice on the Monday session so.
Dr. Strange Stuff
This was a great session.
Rainsong
*Nods* Definitely one you’ll want to keep in your file of nifty successes. 😀
Wayfarer
Yeap, use this to power you through the doldrums. They are coming.
Rainsong
And, much as – ehem – some people dislike ARV, it can be useful. If you decide to use it to choose which numbers to pick in a pick-six type of lottery, be warned that it takes several weeks to complete all the sessions.
Wayfarer
If I can accomplish nothing else with you DSS it will be sparing you the crippling neurosis I have over bad sessions.
That is my main goal.
Rainsong
It’s a good goal.
(Remember: Learn from other people’s mistakes. You won’t live long enough to make them all yourself.)
Dr. Strange Stuff
I accept the fact that I’m not going to be right every time so I know that’s ahead of me.
Rainsong
After the slump we keep going on about, things improve again, if you don’t quit during the doldrums.
Wayfarer
I get really, really thrown off when I have a just garbage session. If I can spare you that trouble then job done.
Rainsong
*nods*
Dr. Strange Stuff
Yeah, I feel like my practice and scanning is going to help with that. I don’t ever I first started scanning I had a really big attachment outcome, but since I learned that I will get better results if I just don’t care if I’m right or wrong, I just say whatever pops into my mind. I’m more likely to be right rather than thinking about it and thinking ‘oh no I hope this is right’ so I feel like I can apply the same thing here.
Wayfarer
Yeah, non-attachment to the outcome is important. I also assume that’s why you were thrown by the ARV tasking earlier that wasn’t a coordinate tasking.
I also assign ARV differently, but Rainsong’s undoubtedly more educated in ARV than I am so her way is more than likely the canonical method.
Rainsong
“Describe the picture/whatever….” is the more common tasking for ARV, but there’s no good reason not to use standard coordinates.
Wayfarer
The association I make goes coordinate → (targetA[outcomeA] | targetB[outcomeB]) ← outcome – so that the coordinate, when it’s set, is set as “9120-1294 is the image associated with the [outcome]” and then you just have what you have. One advantage to this is that as the viewer you cannot tell if it’s an ARV session or a CRV session so you will adhere to a stricter protocol / structure.
But it’s not the industry standard for ARV, and there is probably a reason for that which I just don’t know. My instructor did not care much for ARV was the impression I got.
Rainsong
The only reason I can think of for the non-standard tasking is that some of the “major players” in ARV don’t do any other forms of RV… and perhaps are unsure of their ability to “attach” a coordinate to their task?
Not that it’s difficult or anything, but if you’re coming at ARV as your first psychic/psionic/magic/energy-work procedure ever… sometimes it’s hard to wrap your head around it.
Wayfarer
That would make sense, if you’re not aware that CRV coordinates are arbitrary then you’d end up like I sometimes do with sigils, going “well I mean yeah I can follow this method but how is my intention connected to the design???????” when the answer to that is “it just is tho.”
Rainsong
*nods* Military RV dudes and dudettes had an introductory process in their training that helped them wrap their heads around the strangeness of it, or at least grasp the basic concepts as potential reality.
Wayfarer
“This is some psychic nerd shit, but you’ve been identified as a psychic nerd whether you like it or not.”
Rainsong
”…because yea, being psychokinetic obviously means you’re also psychically ‘sensitive’…“
Wayfarer
^ classic mistakes people think right there
Rainsong
To be fair, though, the guy who was assigned to Fort Meade because he was caught doing pk, by his commander, did turn out to be a good RVer.
Wayfarer
Buchanan’s legit, but he’s not Pat Price legit.
More alive though.
Rainsong
This is true, on both counts
Hobbetian
What about Prudence Calabrase?
I found her in the documentary Men Who Stare at Goats, and she’s got her course online.
Her reading in Men Who Stare at Goats was impressive.
Wayfarer
Wait now, what? There is a comedy movie called The Men Who Stare at Goats which is based on true events, but I don’t know about a documentary?
Hobbetian
Right.
It was a documentary from the BBC, which was then released as a book and later adapted into a movie.
Want a link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAMIvDmWbQs
Crazy Rulers of the World – part 1 – The Men Who Stare At Goats
Wayfarer
Oh I see. I don’t know Calabrese and don’t think she was connected to the military stuff. It does look like she’s connected to IRVA however.