Instructor: Rainsong
Date: January 6, 2018 (Saturday)
Rainsong
Good evening, gentlefolk all.
Rainsong
Welcome to another friendly psionics seminar here at the social club.
Rainsong
Our topic for the evening is sort of a continuation of last week. Specifically: interpreting the stuff you see/feel/grok when scanning
Rainsong
I’m going to start by saying that you won’t always be able to usefully interpret everything you pick up in a scan.
Scelana
I’ll be here shortly, need to pay rent really quick
Rainsong
Some of you will be able to interpret more than others. And some of you will be picking up different kinds of data than others. It’s much the same as, in Remote Viewing, different people tend to home in on different aspects of a target
Rare peypey
Is it possible to re-interpret the same data to get some more useful conclusions? or does that just encourage active imaginations?
Rainsong
When scanning, you mean?
Rare peypey
yeah, or with esp in general I suppose
Rainsong
waggles hand Sort of, sometimes.
Rainsong
Puts things out of order a bit, but might as well cover that now.
Rainsong
If you can describe and record the data, you can look back on it later – minutes, days, even years later – and re-evaluate your interpretation, add to it by cross-referencing other things you’ve learned in the interim, or have someone else analyze your results and see what they come up with
Rainsong
For example, if you’re looking at people’s fields and twenty different people all have the same shade of puce dotted with chartreuse in perfectly even rows of 1cm dots separated by 5cm all over… Well, you can record that. It’s basic data, with English words that adequately describe it (as far as it goes) and you’ve gotten a clear enough image to do that.
Rainsong
Cool, yea?
Rare peypey
It’s similar to crv protocols, but for general use then
Rainsong
I wouldn’t have the foggiest clue what that colour and pattern combination meant, but I’d record it for later in case someone else noticed something consistent across all those twenty fields, and maybe there was a correspondence for further reference.
Rainsong
Rare Peypey: yep.
Rainsong
Only the recording part of the protocols, of course, but yes, very like that.
Candra
*checks in*
Scelana
Back
Rainsong
Hi, Candra
Rainsong
Hi, Scelana
Rare peypey
we’ve got a few people now, good 😀
Candra
Gonna use the restroom real fast and get settled, but count me present
Rainsong
If, by contrast, you pick up a vague impression that you can’t describe, you’re not in a position to be able to re-interpret it later. Your imagination will fill in all sorts of nonsense, if you even remember the impression at all. (Most of the vague impressions disappear in seconds.)
Rainsong
Making an attempt at describing the impression and writing it down or voice-recording it, or sketching it, will give you something to compare later.
Rainsong
Always put the date on any of these records. If you can also record the place, time, weather, solar conditions, and so on… so much the better.
Rainsong
Sometimes, a meaning will be obvious in hindsight. And then, if that “impression” shows up again, you’ll have an idea of what it means.
Rainsong
For example, perhaps you’ll will get a vague impression of the scent of vanilla and cinnamon just before heading to the grocery store. Note it down.
Rainsong
On the way home, while you’re there, there’s a brilliant sale on (uh, I don’t know…) your favourite kind of yogurt.
Rainsong
Another day, same scent. You arrive at the store, and lo and behold: another brilliant sale on something you normally buy anyway.
Rainsong
So, hmm. Maybe it’s an alert that there’s a good sale at your grocery store on stuff you need anyway.
Rainsong
and so if that scent shows up again, on a day you weren’t really planning to run that errand (a day early or something), maybe stop by the grocery, and see…
Rainsong
My choice of example, however, actually illustrates a related point.
Rainsong
Scanned data, and random psychic input, are normally going to be weaker than other sensory data.
Rainsong
Therefore, if you’re concentrating on or worried about something, your imagination is quitecapable of taking that “something” and running with it.
Rainsong
You’d never guess that I happened to be eating dinner while pulling an example out of the air, would you? 😛
Rare peypey
:joy:
Candra
Definitely doesn’t involve cinnamon or vanilla either
Rainsong
Nope, these cookies totally don’t have any vanilla or cinnamon in them.
Scelana
Hehe
Rainsong
So, you’re scanning someone’s field in a practice session in the annex, and you get a whiff of cinnamon and vanilla. What are you likely to interpret that as?
Rare peypey
using your example, you might think theres a sale at the grocery store, even if it’s something completely different
Rare peypey
so one piece of data can have multiple meanings
Rare peypey
(as in it could be the cookies in this context)
Rainsong
It can, certainly – and still using the same example – maybe there’s a sale at their local grocery store on something they need. Or, they run a grocery store and are thinking of having a sale on the bakery goods…. or they are hoping that their favourite type of (insert food here) is on sale when they do their shopping trip, because the budget’s tight this month and they could use a break on the price.
Rainsong
(yes, I know the whole example set is stupid… Still illustrates the point… So I’m going to keep running with it. )
Rare peypey
i’ll be back in a few minutes
Rainsong
In your records, you’d make a note that a whiff of cinnamon and vanilla appears to be related to grocery sales. And when talking to the person you’re scanning, you can relay it thusly: “I’m catching a whiff of cinnamon and vanilla. I’m not sure what it means, in the context of a field scan, but usually when I pick that up, it means there’s a sale on a basic grocery at the local shop”
Rainsong
Be well, Rare Peypey.
Scelana
Ahhh
Rainsong
Where many books and reference materials go wrong is in assuming that everybody will pick up a scent of vanilla and cinnamon under those conditions.
Rainsong
And that it will always mean the same thing, regardless of circumstance.
Rainsong
A field scan with that data-bit may end up being totally unrelated. Your practice buddy have been eating French vanilla ice cream, been using vanilla-cinnamon extract as perfume, or has a cord to someone whom he/she associates with vanilla cinnamon snaps.
Rainsong
And, regarding the “everyone” part, someone else might get the prompting to re-schedule the grocery trip by a flash of colours or an image of a milk carton.
Scelana
Makes sense that it’d not be the same for everyone/everything
Rainsong
A more normal example, which I’ve used on a number of occasions in the past, is the “colour” of a type of field format. The format is thought of as a “kind of energy” in another community. And that format/kind/type/whatever is pretty common. A friend and I could identify that format pretty consistently, and it always looked the same to both of us. And both of us always saw it as a specific colour.
Rainsong
However, the colour she see it as and the colour I see it as are very different from each other. One of us always sees it as bright green (just a little off of the text colour of Scelana’s alias in here) and the other always sees it as a slightly mottled very bright grey… almost white.
Rainsong
The important thing is for you to notice what you pick up, and correlate the data.
Rainsong
Another example.
Rainsong
Let’s pretend you’re playing Pass the Construct. You know the drill: someone makes a simple construct, and passes it to the next person in the room, who describes whatever they can pick up in a PM, and then passes it to the next person who does likewise…
Rare peypey
Back, sorry about that
Rainsong
The person who made the construct for this round made a purple cat-shaped construct that spins on it’s Y-axis.
Rainsong
(no problem)
Rainsong
(wb)
Scelana
Wb
Rainsong
Person A hands the construct off to Person B
Rainsong
Presuming the handoff is successful and the construct doesn’t dissolve once it leaves Person A’s hands (hey, it happens…), perhaps Person B gets an impression of grapes and eggplants when feeling around for any colour impressions.
Rainsong
And the shape feels soft and roundish with some lumps, and is moving a little.
Rainsong
“What colour is this construct? Huh. Grapes. What the fluff is an eggplant?” – Google-sensei it is… Oh, an aubergine… Those are purple on the outside and kind of pasty on the inside.
Rare peypey
If you happened to get the vanilla signal, and I was mentally linked to you, would I pick up the vanilla signal, or my equivalent, say gooseberries? I ask because mind to mind contact seems to translate between our various internal languages. Sensory neuron 1000 firing in my brain doesn’t mean the same as in yours
Rainsong
…. And Grapes, eh? Those can be red, or green, or purple… Hmmm. Am I detecting a pattern here? Purple it is“
Rare peypey
(I’m on my phone now and I didn’t realise I was scrolled up. Sorry for interrupting)
Rainsong
No, no, that’s fine. I do the same far too often… on a desktop computer.
Rainsong
And it’s an interesting question. The answer is not exactly obvious.
Rainsong
Most of the time, you’ll get your gooseberry impression.
Rainsong
Sometimes, you’ll get an impression directly from the other person, and end up with a whiff of vanilla.
Rainsong
And occasionally, you’ll get either a distanced form of the original impression (Why do I keep seeing vanilla flowers and these tree things?) or a direct impression of “I need to go to the store”
Rainsong
Another favourite example of mine. 😀
Rainsong
Pulse-Sending practice, of colours.
Rainsong
I’m Sending. Keep in mind, I majored in one of the performing arts in university… that affects how colours and sounds and the like are interpreted, too.
Rainsong
So, yea, just Sending away.
Rare peypey
Blue?
Rainsong
A bit of a longer-than-normal-pause….
Rainsong
And then a message of, and I quote, “What the hell is beige?”
Scelana
So you basically can receive info you don’t even begin to know till you look up things?
Rainsong
Yes.
Rainsong
Sometimes you’ll get enough data to have some clue as to where to start. Sometimes you won’t
Rare peypey
In that beige case, it was the word that was received and not the colour, because the receiver would be able to best understand it in that form
Rainsong
If you’re inclined to do readings professionally, and you pick up something you don’t understand, admit you don’t understand it and just describe the thing. It might mean someone to the person sitting for the reading.
Rainsong
Yes, he caught the word itself – and even the correct spelling – but he wasn’t familiar with the concept and did not pick up (or at least did not recognise) any actual colour.
Rainsong
If you’re scanning someone from a different culture… and even more, if you’re scanning someone of a different species… expect there to be a lot you won’t have a context for.
Rare peypey
I find that strange, since you don’t need to be familiar with something to perceive and interpret it
Rainsong
Pro-Tip: Do not empathically scan spiders who are hunting or half-grown squirrels on sugar-highs
Scelana
Hehe
Rare peypey
XD
Scelana
I can’t even imagine what that is like
Rainsong
Actually, you do. if see – with your eyes – things that are sufficiently unfamiliar, you’ll either interpret them as something they’re not or just not register them at all.
Rainsong
there are reports of people seeing tall ships for the first time… and the ships were, in effect, invisible to people in the direct line of sight, until someone could translate what was out there on the water to them, gradually enough to process.
Rare peypey
A baby can percieve the colour beige for example even if they haven’t seen it before
Rainsong
The baby situation has complications of another kind.
Rainsong
But what I was mostly referring to was stuff that you can pick up (unlike the tall ship example), but can’t explain.
Rainsong
Verbal impressions don’t always translate into a language you understand, for example.
Rainsong
The significance of a picture of a flying white crane to someone who grew up in the Soviet Union might escape you.
Rare peypey
I think I understand you now
Rainsong
The chaos of Heathrow might be simply too overwhelming to interpret, even if you’re from London and fly to Frankfurt twice a week
Rare peypey
Heathrow is absolutely huge, can confirm
Rainsong
(Incidentally, interpretation of foreign-language thoughts is a handy skill to cultivate.)
Rainsong
Easier examples, though.
Scelana
I can understand the verbal not translating to my native language part when receiving sent messages, I’ve had it happen several times
Rainsong
Back to field scanning…. If you feel around someone’s field, and something is different from the rest of the field (warmer, more dense, prickly), there’s probably a clump there that could use cleaning.
Rainsong
If it’s a field you scan often, and the clump is new, you’ll notice it more easily.
Rainsong
Fields should normally be basically bilaterally symmetrical.
Rainsong
Shields might or might not be, depending on the build/programming.
Rare peypey
Is it possible to scan a field through a shield without being much stronger than the person you’re scanning?
Rainsong
Yes, it is. Aside from strength, the variables include skill, and the Shield format, and how you’re approaching it.
Rainsong
Someone can be very strong without being very skillful, after all.
Rare peypey
That’s true for most of the naturals I suppose
Rainsong
Also, some people choose to scan, ehem, around the Shielding, either by “remote doll” approach (imagining the person as a “doll” in front of you, and scanning by proxy), or what’s basically a “teleport” of the consciousness inside the shields bypassing them entirely. A buddy of mine from Sweden is very good at that, and can bypass most kinds of Shields.
Rare peypey
Sounds like that basically invalidates certain types of shields, if you’re skilled enough
Rainsong
“That’s true for most of the naturals I suppose” – the “strong without skill” thing? some, at least, yes.
Rainsong
There is no defence that is completely impenetrable. And, many types of shielding are not meant to keep people out. The standard telepath Shields are just filtering or blocking out unintended telepathic input.
Rainsong
For combat-type defence, yea, it comes down to strength, skill, and inventiveness… not necessarily in that order. Skill/finesse is generally going to win over brute strength. Not always, but often enough…
Scelana
Ah
Rainsong
Questions? Commentary on tonight’s rambly class?
Rare peypey
You answered all the questions I have thought of. Thank you for the lecture 😀
Rainsong
Thanks for participating
Scelana
I have none that i can think of yet atm, though my mind trying to imagine the spider and squirrel thing now lol
Rainsong
If you Read a squirrel who’s been chomping on a gum-drop the size of his arm, you’ll be twitching for the next few hours.
Rainsong
There a sort of joyful glee – for lack of better descriptor – that the spider exudes when she concludes a successful hunt or trapping.
Scelana
Ahhh
Rare peypey
If we’re done here, I’ll be off to try and sleep my fever off. Goodnight all, talk to you tomorrow
Rainsong
I imagine that some people might be alarmed by my direct answers to some combat- and defence-related questions. But no, there isn’t a Shield ever been made that can defend against everything. Combat is possible, and isn’t a hypothetical situation. Messing up even non-violent stuff can get you killed or very sick.
Rainsong
Be well, Rare Peypey. Good night/morning
midnight
feel better soon peypey
Scelana
Sleep well Rare peypey, get well soon