Instructor: Rainsong
Date: April 21, 2018 (Saturday)
Rainsong
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen
Rainsong
Welcome to another psionics seminar here at the social club.
Rainsong
Our topic for the evening is a bit of a clump: sensing other people, connections between people, and the cords and tendrils that are often – but not always – involved
Rainsong
The usual warnings and disclaimers apply. We’re talking about real-world stuff, so if the idea of real-world psionics freaks you out, you may want to find a different chatroom
Rainsong
Any comments or questions before we get into it?
Rose
none from me
Scelana
i have none atm
Silkysky
Hmm I’m good.
Kate Embers
Phew, just returned from a meeting! 00:35 đ Hello there!
Rose
hi Kate!
Scelana
Hello Kate Embers
Silkysky
Hello
Rainsong
Some of the most basic parts of psionics are telepathy (and by extension psychic empathy) and several kinds of âenergeticâ interference in the physical bodies other than the one belonging to the psionicist/practitioner – healing and otherwise.
Rainsong
Hi, Kate. Glad you could make it.
Rainsong
Those are all interactions with another person (or another being, more broadly)
Rainsong
It should come as no surprise, then, that there are ways to connect with and perceive other people-beings
Rainsong
There’s very little terminology that’s agreed upon across all practitioners of psionics.
Rainsong
And even less that’s agreed across the broader community of energy workers / magic users / woo-woo-people
Rainsong
You may have noticed this before.
Rose
yuuuuuup
Silkysky
Yeah though I notice in general it has come to sensing and scanning terms. The complicated part is when trying to explain it.
Rose
There’s especially confusion around terms related to the different planes of existence, and also around terms about the âextrasensesâ (i don’t even know the proper term for those)
Scelana
There is a lot of varying terminology for many of the same things hehe
Rose
yeah :sweat_smile:
Rainsong
So, Friendly Definitions. đ Got the concept from a Statistics and Probability textbook, and it’s useful here. The idea is to agree on at least temporary usage, so we’re all on approximately the same page (or at least the same bookâŚ) for the purposes of discussion in the seminar.
Rainsong
âSensingâ other people looks like it should be self-explanatory, in the context of psionics, right? You’re psychically looking at, listening to, feeling, etc somebody or several somebodies. Yea?
Rose
yes
Scelana
yep
Silkysky
Yep
Kate Embers
yep
Jael
Yep
Rainsong
This roughly corresponds with scanning someone, too.
Rose
yes⌠psychically taking a deeper look
Silkysky
I would say scanning is a bit more in-depth. The difference between just looking and listening in everyday life to actively inspecting and analysing something.
Rose
yes, exactly
Rose
but i think she meant it’s also self-explanatory?
Rainsong
Actually, it isn’t. âScanningâ has acquired quite a collection of meanings, over the years, with various degrees of detail and depth being implied⌠and sometimes also greater or lesser degrees of specific âthingsâ being looked at/felt/grokked/listened toâŚ
Rainsong
In its broadest sense, it is the same as psychically sensingâŚÂ anything at any depth deliberately.
Rainsong
So, you can see where confusion can come into play.
Rainsong
Cords and tendrils can cause the same sort of confusion, because they have different meanings in different communities.
Rose
they sure do⌠especially that is hard to communicate in most communities, there doesn’t seem to be a well-known term for the concept it’s supposed to embody
Silkysky
I see a cord just being a longer lasting tendril. Tendrils you poke or what not and retract, a cord you leave for a while.
Rose
i end up usually having to explain the whole thing instead of using a name for it
Rose
especially âtendrilsâ often leads to misunderstandings
Rainsong
Where I’m from, âtendrilâ implies the result of a volitional action, while a âcordâ is often unintended (but can also be intentional)⌠And cords usually are longer-lasting, with tendrils often being implied to be temporary âpseudopodâ-like constructions
Rainsong
gestures vaguely to the various comments
Rainsong
I rest my case. đ
Rainsong
Even so,⌠generally speaking, tendrils, cords, tentacles, and the like are regarded as âenergeticâ connectors. They may or may not have a purpose.
Rainsong
For example, a long-term energetic connection between lovers may not actually do anything, other than maintain a vague âsenseâ that the other person is âthereâ
Rainsong
Conversely, the lovers in question might have ongoing conscious communication â verbal, tactile or otherwise â being carried on that connection
Rose
Are you saying physical communication is an energetic connection too?..
Rainsong
If you want to âreach out and touch someoneâ, you can extend a bit of your field as though you were pulling a piece of taffee from the larger mass of candy.
Rainsong
Rose: yes
Rainsong
The taffee-like extension can be started off by literally grasping a section of your field between your fingers and pulling on it. It doesn’t really matter much whether you can sense your own field well, for this purpose. I mean, sure, it helps. But it’s not required
Rainsong
Or, if you have better control of your field, you can simply extend the bit outward
Rainsong
(By âfieldâ, I mean the âstuffâ that makes up the less solid part of your bodyâŚmore or less. The concept overlaps the popular idea of an âauraâ)
Rainsong
If you want to practice poking out these extensions (I think of them as âtendrilsâ. Your mileage may vary.), practice making yoyo constructs and play with them. If nothing else, it’s a good way to pass the time and convince people you’re insane, when waiting in line at the post office or sitting on the bus or the like
Rainsong
Some of you would do well to keep a regular practice of pulling the yoyo back in, too. (You know who you are đ )
Rose
whistles innocently
Rainsong
Accidental connections are usually harmless. However, sometimes there are reasons to want to disconnect them. And it’s usually best to disconnect intentional connections from hostile people.
Rainsong
You’ll come across quite an assortment of ways to disconnect these.
Rainsong
I would suggest not just ripping them out with brute force, unless you are desperate and have no other option at the time.
Rainsong
Tearing a connection away from your field can result in damaging your field. I’ve seen a few situations in which the damage was rather long-lasting, and sometimes also caused physical evidence of such damage in the form of burns and bruising (more rarely, lacerations).
Rainsong
None of that is fun.
Rose
âŚ.is that why i get mysterious bruises?
Rainsong
Maybe. There are other potential causes for mysterious bruises that you’d want to rule out.
Rainsong
Some of them are indicative of serious underlying health conditions, including but not limited to some kinds of cancer. So always check that kind of thing out with a competent healthcare professional
Rose
okay..
Rainsong
Instead of the brute-force approach, I’d suggest one of two things:
Rainsong
If your sensitivity is good enough to detect details of the attachment, try to carefully dislodge the ârootsâ of the attachment, one by one. Hooking a finger underneath to loosen the attachment, and carefully pulling it clear, and then repeating on the next root, and so onâŚ
Rainsong
Otherwise, the slightly more violent approach is to cut it: make a construct knife, or pair of scissors, or blow-torch⌠and cut/burn the connection a few inches outside of your field.
Rose
what about the approach where you shrink the connection until it disappears? is that violent?.. and the one where you âunplugâ from the other’s connection?
Rainsong
Common locations of accidental (and of stealthy hostile) connections are at the small of the back, the back of the neck and shoulders, the region around the heart, and the feet
Xero’och
I once connected to someone with some very nasty defences without intending it
Rainsong
Shrinking it until it disappears is fine, and tends to be pretty non-violent. Just make sure it’s completely gone, rather than keeping a tiny thread still there
Rainsong
Xero’och: That can be inconvenient. Or painful. Or bothâŚ
Scelana
That couldn’t of been fun Lutasi
Rose
even with ones just set up to fire warning signs when getting too close to such a shield, it can be painfulâŚ
Rainsong
True
Rose
like ones designed to shock or otherwise cause pain when you get too close to breaching past the surface
Scelana
I imagine that wasn’t fun at all
Rainsong
In cases where a person habitually reaches out without meaning to, it can be useful to maintain a Shield that holds in âany unintended Sendingsâ⌠in addition to practicing the fine skill of retracting unintended extensions
Rainsong
It’s basically the same format as a basic telepathic defensive Shield that keeps out unintended Sendings/signals, but facing the opposite direction
Rainsong
So far, we’ve mostly been talking about how not to connect, or to stop connecting.
Rainsong
Are there any questions or comments at this point?
Rose
yes..
Rose
so, these extensions from your field⌠these automatically happen? that’s the automatic âreaching outâ? and they extend really far?
Azarea
is it a good idea to cut off every cord you can find if you don’t remember putting it there, or can this adversely affect something you had going on you weren’t aware you had built a connection of?
Silkysky
Far as I’ve seen distance is more a psychological limitation than anything atleast once you get practiced in it. Not sure you would accidentally make long range ones but close range happens a lot it seems.
Rainsong
Rose: Pretty much, yes. How far they reach varies from person to person
Rose
I’ve noticed i can turn that automatic behavior on and off by âretractingâ and âextendingâ the âtendrilsâ.. or, extensions. But in doing so, i’ve also discovered that seemingly, you can set the range at which the automatic behavior happens. I don’t fully understand yet exactly what that ârangeâ is, it doesn’t seem to be distance.. When doing that, if it’s not the field you’re extending, what are you extending/contracting? or am i just getting this completely wrong?
Rainsong
Azarea: There is the possibility of interrupting something you have working, if you tend to work in traditions that involve workings you don’t track (ie, most of them)
Rainsong
Rose: As far as I can determine, it’s from/part of the field, yes
Rainsong
Silky: I’ve seen accidental ones in excess of 5000 miles
Scelana
that is a rather long distance
Rose
but i’m not growing my field to encompass everyone in my vicinity both online and in real life, right? That wouldn’t make sense with those lines extending from my fieldâŚ
Silkysky
Were those established at that distance or formed closer and just stretched? I can definitely see connecting to someone nearby than the connection persisting over such distances.
Rainsong
Further to Azarea: If you don’t recognise the feel of a connection, it’s often wise to disconnect it, if you’re having problems with fatigue, difficulty concentrating, or other general malaise, because some people âpullâ your âenergyâ from you without even knowing they are doing it. âPsychic vampiresâ of sorts.
Rainsong
Silky: Some of them were âre-establishedâ at that kind of distance, rather than just persisting. Not too common for accidental ones to form like that, though.
Rainsong
Rose: No, not growing your field, particularly. You tend to extend more lines than is healthy for you, but your overall field doesn’t typically grow as a result of that
Rose
then what is it i’m growing? subconscious programming that defines how far it should reach?
Rainsong
That’s possible, yes.
Rainsong
But I don’t know precisely what’s going on in your case. From what we do know, you ought to keep most of your lines retracted most of the time.
Rose
>.< yes
Rose
this âautomatic behaviorâ of forming extensions towards people-beings you interact with, is that a natural process that happens in everyone? can that automatic behavior be modified through techniques dealing with the subconscious?
Rainsong
Almost everyone does it at least a little bit, as a natural âautomaticâ behaviour. It can be brought under conscious control, however.
Azarea
Ok, thank you.
Rainsong
You’re welcome.
Rainsong
Rose: âTechniques dealing with the subconsciousâ as opposed to conscious control? Yes, it’s possible to use hypnosis for it. I hope I don’t need to caution you against having âjust any random hypnosis practitionerâ attempt that, howeverâŚ.
Rose
no⌠I meant talking to your own subconscious
Rainsong
Doing it incorrectly can make things so much worse.
Rose
without external hypnosis
Rainsong
Yes, it’s also possible to do without external hypnosis.
Rainsong
If you intend to try it, avoid negative constructions when talking to your subconscious.
Rainsong
The subconscious doesn’t acknowledge ânot/niet/nicht/ikke/inteâ and so on
Rose
and âdon’tâ and âdoesn’tâ and âwon’tâ?
Azarea
in general you’re not obligated to use words, consider using symbols like eg. locking a door instead
Rainsong
Those are ânegative constructionsâ, yep. The subconscious will take those as âdoâ, âdoesâ, and âwillâ
Rose
that’s very good to knowâŚ
Rainsong
Indeed: Pictures and mental movies are good
Azarea
the âdon’t use notâ rule is more relevant when you’re forced to use words because you’re using hypnosis, if you’re doing it on yourself you can bypass that stuff
Rainsong
If you are using words, though, it’s an important point to remember
Azarea
yeah
Rose
i’ll keep it in mind
Rose
those were all my questions for now
Rainsong
Also, if you are using words, corny stupid-sounding stuff is effective. Rhyme and rhythm are also useful
Rainsong
Any other comments, questions, and so on?
Rose
âŚis there a lecture log somewhere about talking to your subconscious?
Azarea
it’s kind of its own field about the size of psionics in general
Azarea
probably bigger judging by amount of people and ink
Scelana
I am curious, are there ways to strengthen existing connections?
Rose
i think so, there are ways that i use, i’m willing to share them but i’ll let Rainsong answer that first
Rainsong
re talking to subconscious: There’s a little bit in âBasics and Maintenanceâ http://psc-online.org/doku.php?id=class_logs:start but as Azarea says, it’s a huge topic
Rainsong
Scelana: Yes, it’s a simple matter of adding oomph to the connection, adding emotion to the connection (which also, incidentally tends to add oomph), or directly use intention and focus and oomph together to expand or firm up the connection in the same way you’d add substance to a construct
Rose
yay it matches my method!
Scelana
Ahh I see, thxies
Rose
my method for strengthening a connection is to âexpandâ the connection. I usually visualise a connection as a tube made of light, that’s not solid. To disconnect I shrink it, and to strengthen I grow it past it’s normal size⌠then there’s also sort of âpullingâ it closer to you, tighter, it kind of feels like getting closer into someone’s personal space.
Scelana
Does using a connection more often help or do something in some way as well?
Rainsong
The more often it’s used, the more oomph going through it
Scelana
ah kk
Rose
Rainsong: i’m thinking the pulling it âtighterâ may be similiar to firming up the connection?
Rainsong
Rose: Yes, it sounds like we’re describing the same thing
Rose
great đ
Rainsong
đ
Rose
quite a long questions section in this one
Rainsong
nods And that’s a good thing. đ
Scelana
indeed it is
Rose
glad you think so :sweat_smile: i’m mostly thinking about how it’s eating up the time you have to use for the rest of the explanation
Rainsong
I’m not entirely sure that the focus of tonight’s seminar is what Konii had in mind when it was requested, but it’s not as though this is the only time we’ll be looking at this topic
Rainsong
âExplanationâ time is only a problem if there is something specific in the topic that we need to get covered. Most seminar topics are far too broad to cover the whole thing in a single seminar, even if it were to run for several hours
Rose
then i’m looking forward to the next seminars on this đ
Rose
back to the subconscious question.. if you, umm, accidentally mess up some subconscious programming, can you reset it to the way it was before you messed with it, with a simple command?..
Rainsong
With a simple command? Not usually, no. But it would depend on exactly what was messed up: how complicated it was, how deep it’s seated, what else it’s connected to, how recent the change was, and so on
Rose
facepalms after that mishap recently where i expanded the tendrils/extensions so far that it felt like i was suddenly connected to everyone around me, i tried fixing that by messing with the subconscious programming of the automatic process that forms the extensions. and i may have messed some of it up. and i want it back to the way it used to be before i messed with it..
Azarea
do you know about map/territory distinction?
Rose
no?..
Azarea
usually in the world the stuff you’re trying to understand is separate from your understanding of it, changing your understanding won’t change the world. In all of these manipulate-subconscious things, this is not true anymore and your understanding of how things work will heavily affect how they actually work. It’s both possible to have a full reset button and impossible to have one, all depending on the structure of your beliefs, including this one. Extremely personal thing you’re going to have to experiment with, and quite difficult once you’re stuck in a local optimum.
Rose
wow..
Azarea
there are techniques you can use to âshake everything upâ, and others that make your mind vulnerable and malleable so you can nudge it into where you want; but these are quite extreme and are usually not things you do alone without a good amount of preparation and will. What I’d personally (but I’m not Rainsong) recommend instead, if you want to experiment with this, is to create or discover a mental/astral structure, like an inner temple or chakra system or whatever, that features a control room or energy flows you can change by visualization/oomph directly in order to communicate desires across.
Azarea
the other common and relatively safe method is to compress your will/programming into something that sticks, like a tiny poem, a mantra or a symbol, which you can then focus on a lot and brand it within like that
Azarea
[apologies for hijacking lecture]
Rose
thank you for all that information đ
Rainsong
You haven’t hijacked it at all, Azarea. You’re offering useful knowledge to the group.
Rose
if not with a reset âbuttonâ, i’d need to know exactly how it was operating before i messed with it, which⌠i don’t. I didn’t understand some bits of it
Rainsong
The âsomething that sticksâ can also be a gesture
Azarea
you will probably never understand your own subconscious, partly because your understanding influences it, and partly because it is so insanely difficult to observe it
Azarea
you can make sense of it, you can make a model that pokes it in certain ways, but you will never completely understand it
Rose
and this extends to that specific automatic process that forms extensions automatically?
Azarea
well, you can attempt to systemize it. Hence control room
Rainsong
Rose: you could start by writing down / typing exactly what you believe got changed and in what wayâŚÂ and exactly how you think it was before that change. In as much detail as possible. Take a few days to do it. So put it in a separate document, whether hard copy or electronic
Azarea
in general all of these methods all depend on you knowing what you want
Silkysky
You could try a general reset to x point in time where you know things were working and you had a better grasp on it. For me a lot of this is done with meditation and trance work along with use of sounds like white or pink noise. Leave yourself a switch to undo it as well if it doesn’t work out.
Rainsong
Be aware that such a re-set might well revert everything in your system to the earlier version. That might or might not be useful. Again, âknowing what you want to accomplishâ is important here
Azarea
this is an area where thinking of all the ways it can go wrong is actually kind of counterproductive
Azarea
because expectation shapes it so much
Azarea
so focus on what you want, and then find a way to express that intuitively
Rose
(i do hope my specific problem being in this lecture actually helps others and would be useful information in general)
Rainsong
(Rose: Yes, it does)
Azarea
@Rainsong re telepathy through connections, does it matter where on the body a connection is built? Would I get particular benefits from docking at the center of someone’s aura vs the outer edge?
Rose
thank you Azarea, Rainsong, and Silkysky for the answers đ
Azarea
np
Rainsong
Rose: You’re welcome
Silkysky
I think maybe if you take a bit more pride and confidence and don’t let failures get you down it will make you more confident in controlling these things. Hope it works out soon Rose.
Rainsong
Azarea: Docking well in the aura, preferably at the physical body, will usually result in stronger reception.
Azarea
also, when a spirit first explained to me to use connections to improve telepathy, they also told to use a kind of receiver at the other end. Is this a common thing to do?
Azarea
could maybe recreate it if needed
Rainsong
Some people find that certain parts of the body are more useful than others: typically the tummy, heart, and face. (Chakra people often say the throat chakra is connected to communication, but it doesn’t appear to be advantageous for telepathyâŚ?)
Azarea
hm, ok
Rainsong
âKind of receiverâ = sticking an amplifying construct there, for example?
Azarea
I assume something like that? I was never able, still am not, to really discern the purpose or functioning of foreign constructs
Silkysky
I find stomach for emotions, base of skull for actions and sensation, and third eye region for images, words, etc. For me that works. I usually use either just a pulse of energy down a quick tendril for a one shot message or just link a two way tendril up and use that.
Rose
okay, i’m out of questions for now
Rainsong
Base of skull makes sense for that
Silkysky
Seems to work quite well.
Rainsong
And if it works, run with it.
Silkysky
Yep.
Rose
so.. um⌠the seminar seems to be moving slowly now. Wasn’t there another section you wanted to explain?
Rainsong
I think we’ll defer the other sections to another time.
Rainsong
I’m not at all disappointed that we didn’t get to those, because I think we covered a good amount of useful stuff tonight
Rose
đ
Rainsong
Thanks for participating, everyone.