Interpretation of Psychic Information (Class 1)

Instructor: Rainsong
Date: December 30, 2017 (Saturday)

Rainsong
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.

Candra
I also got one really long ride, so I’m on break now

Rainsong
To be fair, it was suggested in reply to my question about what folks would like classes on. So the request was prompted.

Rainsong
Congrats on nabbing the long ride. 😀

Rainsong
As you can see above, our topic for the evening is interpretation of psychic information.

Candra
Yup!

Forest_Horns
I’ll be in and out… currently hooking up a sink

Candra
This might be useful for me in some ways

Rainsong
Good luck and best wishes for a successful project, Forest Horns.

B.O.X.
(For the sake of encouragement, I’m also kind of around but very lethargic but interested in this too)

Rainsong
Thanks, B.O.X. I hope you feel better soon.

Rainsong
Are there any questions on the topic before we start?

Candra
Does this in some form or another cover mind-to-mind reception?

Rainsong
It can.

Candra
Cool

Rainsong
It’s a broad topic, and we’ll be basically covering part of it… What part is determined by the questions asked and what happens to come to mind when I’m droning on…

Rainsong
😉

Candra
lol aight

Rainsong
How about we start with mind-to-mind, seeing as you asked.

Rainsong
First, to get it out of the way, yes, it is possible to have mental conversations that are practically indistinguishable from vocal speech.

Rainsong
It doesn’t happen to everybody. Some people just aren’t “wired” that way, but it can and does happen from time to time.

Rainsong
In those cases, interpreting the data is pretty much the same as interpreting vocal speech.

midnight
I’m here

Candra
Yay

Rainsong
If you don’t happen to be watching the other person’s face, to see whether their lips are moving, you probably won’t be able to tell the difference, voice vs telepathy… especially if the conversation is in a language you understand.

Rainsong
Hi, Midnight.

Rainsong
Does anyone have any questions about that one, or should we carry on to the less obvious sub-types of telepathy?

Candra
I’ve none personally

BlueFire
Sub-types!

Scelana
I’ve definitely had experience with pure mental conversations, though not with physical beings yet hehe

midnight
same

Rainsong
Scelana: It’s mind-to-mind… The structure of the body is not at issue. 😀

Scelana
There’s subtypes?

midnight
it was a trip to learn you can communicate with spirits and other entities telepathically

Rainsong
Indeed

BlueFire
clairvoyance, clairaudience, etc

BlueFire
(I think thats what Rain was about to say xD)

Scelana
It took me a few weeks of exposure before I heard my 1st communication. Was the female friendly giggling at me while I was bout to start a shower hehe

BlueFire
:eyes:

Scelana
Hehe

Rainsong
Still with telepathy, it is far more common to pick up impressions, and parts of concepts, with or without emotions, from folks than it is to get a clear speech.

midnight
I can get a few words at a time

midnight
and impressions

Rainsong
that’d be somewhere in the middle, then.

Rainsong
For example, you might well get a vague impression of your buddy Luke over in Accounting, just before your desk phone rings and it’s his office line on the caller ID.

Scelana
I have had full conversations. Though I’m still replying back verbally or sub vocally at times still hehe

BlueFire
I get stuff like that somewhat often Rainsong haha

Rainsong
A lot of the time, a thought or impression will not be easily traceable, and you might even think it’s your own, if you’re not careful about your grounding and centering. cough cough hint hint

Scelana
Ahh

Candra
It was because of my overall grounding that I even discovered that I was an empath

silton2
im here

Rainsong
In cases like that, where you’re not sure who’s thought it is, but it’s occurred to you that it might not be yours…. Take a moment, and start by simply asking yourself, “Who’s that?”

Rainsong
Then take a look around your field, if you’re at the stage where you can do that, and see if any cords are active. If so, follow it back.

Rainsong
Don’t be discouraged if that doesn’t work, though. Backtrailing a cord is harder than it sounds, and a lot harder than many people let on.

Rainsong
Just being real, here.

Rainsong
Hi, Silton

Scelana
That’s basically a form of tracing right?

Candra
It’s okay, stuff like this I’d prefer people being real than get fluff

Aureum Animus
Present

Lutasi
people also sometimes sockpuppet other peoples ‘voices’ around

Rainsong
Scelana: Yes, very good. 😀

Rainsong
Hi, Aureum Animus and Lutasi.

Rainsong
Lutasi: Also true. And obviously, it will come down to relative skill, as to whether that person’s better at spoofing than you are at tracing.

Scelana
I’ve had the big friendly use my own mind’s voice to say things when he’s a bit cranky at who the message is intended for. Usually refuses to speak in english then too The fun of trying to practice playing telephone hehe

silton2
hey midnight

midnight
hey silton

Scelana
He’s a bratty/pouty feller when cranky to certain people, well cranky in the right way

Rainsong
I’ve mentioned before, while “hearing voices in your head” can be a sign of psychiatric problems, it’s not considered a problem unless or until it interferes with your ability to function normally. If some idiot is using telepathic suggestion (or just straight telepathy) to tell you to do bad stuff, it’s a problem… but it doesn’t mean you’re crazy.

Rainsong
At the same time, being telepathic does not mean you don’t have schizophrenia. The two conditions are not mutually exclusive.

Scelana
I have been a target of bad type tps myself

Rainsong
So, if you’re not sure if an idea is your own, or if it comes from a telepathic source, ask yourself whether that idea would be a good one. And, if possible, bounce it off someone you trust.

Candra
So in this case, what would be the best way to practice interpretation of those kinds of signals to verify that it’s not from yourself? I personally have a lot of self-awareness in terms of random thoughts and things like that, but what would be the next step as someone who has no experience in this area to interpreting that as not my own?

Rainsong
There are two parts: learning to distinguish your own thoughts (and verifying which ones aren’t yours), and distinguishing which thoughts are good to act on.

Rainsong
… no matter where they come from.

Rainsong
Apart from telepathy. Outside influence includes things such as advertising.

Candra
Advertising usually doesn’t affect me unless it’s something I’m already interested in

silton2
I always thought ads were laced with telepathic suggestions :joy:

Rainsong
Conversely, sometimes you will think that something is an incoming signal from someone, when it’s really just an imaginary thing…. often prompted by something you’re worried about. It’s a common problem with, for example, couples who’re having a spat.

Rainsong
Silton: Some are. More often, it’s hypnotic rather than telepathic.

Rainsong
(Source: I’m a copywriter)

silton2
wow

Scelana
Verbal thoughts I find easier to tell but thought patterns/thinking style can be harder for me. Least it was when I almost jumped into a bunch of stuff head 1st after I got accidentally blasted a few months back. Took several days and several people to get me to finally snap out of it. The shocky afterwards I didn’t handle so swell though. Not sure how I am with it now

Rainsong
Empathic input can be weird. In some contexts, it feels exactly as though the emotion is your own… although it might or might not be completely unrelated to anything else you’re experiencing.

silton2
in telepathy I dont really receive verbal thoughts

silton2
I just “know” sometimes

Rainsong
Other times – especially if it’s just being used as a carrier – it is felt around your tummy, and you might have to think for a moment to figure out what the emotion even is.

Rainsong
In that case, just quiet your mind for a moment, and observe. You should be able to get an idea of what the basic emotion is, and possibly even the source “scene” it’s being faked from. With practice, you may be able to trace it back to the source… Or guess from the context of the scene.

Scelana
It’s not fun when you pick up on someone being sad/depressed and it causes you to just bout be the same Though it helps if i can id that it’s not from me

Rainsong
That one’s very common. That, and stewing anger. It’s because both are fairly strong, so they carry well. It’s pretty easy for either to overpower just about any other emotion.

Scelana
Ahh, makes sense Would that method also work for physical empathy?

Candra
Stress was the first one i picked up from someone else

silton2
can intentional overload be “traced”?

Scelana
I pick up on stress and anxiety the easiest as a rule

silton2
I pick up on Joy easiest

Rainsong
Silton: Yes, but the overload itself makes the tracing more difficult.

Rainsong
Scelana: Yes, it’s much the same for reception of physical feelings

Scelana
Ah i see

Rainsong
Interpretation of emotions, physical feelings, and impulses are much easier if you’re already familiar with the emotion, feeling, or impulse to begin with. Sometimes you’ll feel/sense something completely outside your experience… and that can be tricky to interpret. That’s another time when bouncing it off someone else can be useful.

Scelana
I’m not a fan of pain myself but I’ve been on the receiving end of accidental sends of physical empathy of pain. Usually when the person it’s from own blocks slip for a few

Rainsong
For example, the first time a friend of mine Read a dragonfly, she picked up on what the tiny animal was seeing, staring back at her. But dragonflies have compound eyes that are sensitive to a different array of colours… and she’d forgotten that. Once she remembered she was looking through an insect’s eyes, it made a lot more sense.

Scelana
Ahh

midnight
i’ve done that before with some friends. it can be very rewarding

Candra
I’ve occasionally misread more complex and subtle emotions

Candra
It took a while to distinguish mild depression from tiredness

Rainsong
When playing something like Shapes and Colours, you know who’s Sending and you know what the options are. In these cases, just pay attention to whatever impressions come through, and typically the ones in the first three seconds are going to be the best/clearest/most accurate, before the imagination starts trying to fill in the edges. Impression of a cherry? Go with red circle. Moving boxes? Yellow square…

Candra
Oh, yea, Midnight did that with me the other day. I do need to practice falling back on intuition

Rainsong
Complex thoughts and emotions are usually easier to pick up on, but harder to interpret… Easier to pick up on because the Sender has an easier time concentrating on them, and harder to interpret because they are complex and interwoven with the Sender’s ideas about them.

Scelana
I need to eventually start doing shapes and colors practice still hehe

Rainsong
We’ve been having more of a discussion seminar, sort of, than a lecture as such… but I’ll ask anyway: Does anyone have any questions or comments at this point?

Candra
How easy is it to pick up other senses such as smell and taste? I can seem to pick up touch to a degree as i found out recently

Candra
And of course, interpret that information

Rainsong
Varies from person to person. For many people, smell is the easiest to pick up and the most difficult to send.

Candra
Mm ok

Rainsong
But all sensory data can be sent and received.

Candra
Does it fall under the same principle of catching what first pops up in your mind?

midnight
i can pick up smells very well

Rainsong
Pity the poor partner of a strongly projective-telepathic woman with severe cramps…

Candra
oh lawd

Scelana
Ouch

Candra
I have IBS, let’s hope I’m not a passive sender >.>;

Rainsong
Candra: It is always likely to be the most accurate, the first impressions and early bits of data, in each receiving attempt.

Candra
mk

Rainsong
Of course, sometimes the situation is such that it is logical to keep “feeling” around for more data. But be sure to note the first impressions.

Rainsong
Would it be of interest to continue “Interpretation” next week?

Rainsong
It’s been an hour and I haven’t even started to touch on the Scanning interpretation that was meant to be the focus this evening. 😀

Candra
Can probably move to scanning about now if you have time

Rainsong
(Granted, as you know, I only do a little scanning interpretation, but still there’s quite a bit to discuss)

Candra
I have my questions answered and material to practice

midnight
i’m down either way

Scelana
Any tips on targeting when trying to send, scan etc? I’ve mainly had the advantage of existing links in most my experience so far but very little in targeting someone I don’t have an existing link with

midnight
i encountered something really weird during a recent scan of someone and i’m not sure what to make of it

Scelana
I’m definitely down for learning scanning interpretation hehe

Rainsong
Scelana: Start with easy. For example, open a PM window to help concentrate on that person. Or jot or draw your impressions about that person onto a scrap of paper and hold it between your hands. Or look at a picture of them.

Rainsong
Midnight: Feel free to bounce it off in here or in PM.

midnight
i’ll do it here, get maximum threshold of input

Rainsong
Sounds good.

Candra
I use an interesting one. I prod messages from people for ones that contain a “charge” with their emotions or personality and then use that to anchor a link

midnight
i have a set of notes to paste, if that’s cool?

Scelana
Ahh i see

Candra
Downside of that is those messages have a time frozen charge to a degree, so it’s important I grab their most recent

Rainsong
Midnight: Sure

Rainsong
Candra: Good idea, and yes, the time-stamp can be an issue. But it’s one that can be worked around.

Candra
I need to practice working around it

Scelana
One person I targeted before was right after he energetically petted my head, used that combined with focusing on him and trying to follow back when trying to target him to send a head pet back

midnight
some background: this person has had this smoky shadow with them for several years now, and hasn’t had any kind of indication as to what it is, what it wants, or why it’s there. it seems to be an intelligent entity of some sort, externally based, and it seems to cover their energetic and psychic senses and renders them nearly useless. i have little information about it outside of the scan i conducted

Candra
But it is fun reading those charges from artwork

midnight

  • smoke that looks dark and dense from afar, but when you step into it, it’s thinner and less oppressive, like fog
  • the smoke passes through their “outline”, but doesn’t seem to aim to obscure or hinder it. almost like it’s trying to mesh, but is unable to do so or is inefficient
  • doesn’t feel inherently negative or harmful
  • attracted to light but doesn’t seem to like fire
  • it moves through the air like slow, drifting incense smoke through a still room
  • when i stepped into the smoke cloud, it enveloped the outside of my bubble shield and seemed to want to pass through it as well
  • smells like woodsmoke, kinda like unprocessed charcoal
  • seems to be external in nature, and not a natural part of lethaius. i got the impression of an object or source being down low, like on the floor or on/in the ground
  • it moves with them but does not flow with them, doesn’t assimilate or harmonize, merely passes through without much active effect
  • person’s energy seems focused in the torso, and is a light pink and light purple in color as it circulates. it doesn’t circulate as much around the head, but is very strong around the chest and stomach
  • i got a strong impression of a medium blue color, which felt like their eyes, although their eyes are not blue. no idea what that is, maybe a false positive (turned out to be the color of the entity’s eyes, as confirmed by another scanner)
  • before they donned an impliment, their outline was more thin and the smoke and their outline were of equal opacity in my sight, but when the impliment was worn, it became more thick. the movement and nature of the smoke did not change
  • the smoke passes through their immediate aura, and energetic and physical self

Rainsong
Candra: Have you considered visualizing a mental “Slider” indicator to help move your “looking” backward and forward in time from the timestamp?

Candra
I haven’t

Rainsong
Midnight: Obviously, the dark/shadow/smoke aspect doesn’t indicate negativity or evil or harmfulness in itself. No worries there.

B.O.X.
Is the person themself aloof or complex or anything?

B.O.X.
(Sorry to butt in – I’m apparently feeling better now)

midnight
i don’t know them well. they seem pretty chill

Rainsong
Do you have any impression of how the being feeds itself? Is it attempting to eat the excess oomph from your friend’s field? Or might it just be using the friend’s field or body as an anchor as a barnacle uses a ship?

midnight
i asked them about memories or associations of smoke or shadows that were substantial in any way, from them or anyone they know, and there was nothing

midnight
it feeds on light

Rainsong
Welcome back, B.O.X. Glad to have you back and feeling better.

midnight
i don’t know the specifics of it, but like. luminosity

midnight
but as i noted, it doesn’t like fire

Rainsong
LED lanterns?

Rainsong
Many non-Fire entities are injured by fire, so they tend not to like it. The trick is figuring out which entities those are….

midnight
no idea. the luminosity of my shield in scanspace attracted it, but a small flame i created made it recoil

midnight
it didn’t seem to retaliate

Rainsong
Might be worthwhile to attempt to speak with the entity in question, find out what it wants. If it likes to eat non-fire light, it should be fairly easy to offer it some.

midnight
i’ll run that by the person and see what they think. thank you for your insight rainsong

Rainsong
You’re welcome, of course.

Rainsong
The entity isn’t one I recognise, but it seems reasonable to approach on neutral-to-friendly grounds, given your description so far.

midnight
the person is pretty concerned about it, but also recognizes that it doesn’t seem to be hostile

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